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Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1343	Posted - 2014.04.15 11:42:00 - [1] - Quote fudge, do i go for the 5th launcher or 100km drone control range? or do i squeeze a MJD on somewhere? eve is hard... EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1343	Posted - 2014.04.15 11:50:00 - [2] - Quote Last Wolf wrote: MeBiatch wrote: this is the snake I would like to see: RATTLESNAKE Gallente Battleship Bonus: 10% missile velocity Caldari Battleship Bonus: 7.5% missile damage Role Bonus: 25% missile ROF Slot layout: 8H, 7M, 5L; 0 turrets, 8 launchers(+4) Fittings: 10000 PWG, 710 CPU Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 12750 / 8940(-358) / 9960 Capacitor (amount / recharge / cap per second) : 5350(+38) / 1154000ms / 4.59 Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 94 / .128 / 99300000 / 18.45s Drones (bandwidth / bay): 50(-75) / 200(-200) Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 75km / 100 / 7 Sensor strength: 30 Signature radius: 450(-10) personally this feels allot more like the snake should be. Fixed that for you. If you really want to get into what a Snake "Should" be, then it should be a pure missile boat. What the hell do Guristas have to do with Drones? 700 cruise dps before any BCS's or drones. dream on lol EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1381	Posted - 2014.04.22 16:12:00 - [3] - Quote Fabulous Rod wrote: Don't be a moron and people won't treat you like one. still not taking ur own advice i see EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1382	Posted - 2014.04.22 16:20:00 - [4] - Quote heavies will travel much faster in summer at least. so i may start using them against targets at 20km rather than just 10km lol. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1388	Posted - 2014.04.23 13:09:00 - [5] - Quote Almost every other ship deals with frigs with 5 unbonused small drones. The rattler is now on par in that respect. where is the disadvantage? EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1390	Posted - 2014.04.23 13:17:00 - [6] - Quote rattlers had to be weary of smartbombs before. if anything, they are more resistant to them now. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1390	Posted - 2014.04.23 13:46:00 - [7] - Quote gascanu, if fab rod agrees with u, u KNOW ur wrong. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1391	Posted - 2014.04.23 13:59:00 - [8] - Quote at least as good as urs CHAMP EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1406	Posted - 2014.04.25 10:52:00 - [9] - Quote epicurus ataraxia wrote: Has it ever happened where once something has hit the test server that the rebalance has been re-evaluated? Or is it that once it hits the test server, only very minor variations take place, leaving things in the majority unchanged? The impression I am getting is that once it reaches that stage, it is pretty set in stone. Either way, I hope CCP rise will respond soon, and take the differing views into account. Before we reach that late stage. i remember player feedback on the test server has lead to changes. on what exactly i cant remember. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1406	Posted - 2014.04.25 12:38:00 - [10] - Quote plenty of ppl are unhappy where heavies are, but ppl still use them. plenty of ppl are unhappy about the BC nerf, but ppl still use drakes and canes. The rattler has shifted from countering everything, to smashing larger targets. but it is still as powerful as any other battleship at hitting frigs. No it doesnt get the same benefit from e-war and the likes, thats just not what its for anymore. but dont worry, u can still use a domi. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"

Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1408	Posted - 2014.04.26 17:14:00 - [11] - Quote Sgt Ocker wrote: You will only be able to fit for max Dps in drones OR missiles Not both. The fitting of a full rack of launchers gimps drone fitting by limiting control range and Dps, don't fit that 5th launcher you severely gimp missile damage. Drone control range is very important to a drone boat as a full rack of launchers is important to a missile boat. oh my god. really?? even with 4 launchers, ur stll doing more missile dps than the current rattler. and its a shield tanker with six low slots, plenty for fitting a BCS/DDA combo of ur choosing. U can also choose to go in closer with 5 launchers or stay out further with to drone links. The choice is entirely urs. but if ur whining because u cant do everything at once, i have this to say: NO! Put down the cake, u cannot eat it. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1408	Posted - 2014.04.26 17:17:00 - [12] - Quote KaDa en Bauldry wrote: afkalt wrote: Lol. Defenders. Yes, if you're going there you're through the bottom of the barrel and digging a hole. Truth be told, with the Golem, defender missiles in PVE are a valid concern, as one successful shot reduces your dps by 25%. Here, it's 20%. Serpentis battleships have quite a high chance of shooting defenders (comes with being based on Gallente ships, the ones with foes mastering missiles). That's one reason Torps are so favored, defenders don't shoot them down. rats shoot defenders at my rattlers cruise missiles now but they rarely seem to actually destroy any. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1409	Posted - 2014.04.27 13:44:00 - [13] - Quote Master Odysseus wrote: 1) ofc no-one is making me but a drone boat with 80km drone range is not a drone boat, it's an imitation of a drone boat. then fit for 4 launchers... EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1410	Posted - 2014.04.27 16:33:00 - [14] - Quote Cassius Invictus wrote: gascanu wrote: Cassius Invictus wrote: Boring... RS this, RS that... lets talk about how Nightmare is overpowered with its 150% AB bonus... Fight! if the ship will be "too OP" ccp will nerf it pretty fast. if instead a ship will be lacking or just bad, it will have to wait for years till a next ballance pass will be done; that's why i don't understand ppl who will hurry and cry "OP! OP!" even it's pretty clear they never flown that ship. but hey, eft warriors know better... Just joking man :). What you say is true. I never flown a Nightmare but trying to fit one now I found out that it has some serious drawbacks that may or may not have an impact depending on application: 1. With AB fitted it will have huge issues with cap stability. 2. Flying with AB on gives you a speed tank but also makes you unable to hit anything. It won't be a 100mn AB tengu. If they can't shoot you, you cant shoot them. i read ppl use a mwd nightmare, so an AB boosted one might be a nice halfway point. but i found the same as u, nightmares are a nightmare to fit bdum-tshh EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1410	Posted - 2014.04.27 20:32:00 - [15] - Quote i'd be very surprised if my rattler was worse at missions. i barely use smalls as it is. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1420	Posted - 2014.04.30 15:25:00 - [16] - Quote are u guys now trying to say its no good because u cant multi box with it? man alive EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1420	Posted - 2014.04.30 15:55:00 - [17] - Quote motie one wrote: It does seem that this ship has had so many micromanagement needs added that one really considers whether it is worth flying at all. not empty quoting, just pointing out someones obvious lies EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1432	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:02:00 - [18] - Quote Arthur Aihaken wrote: Vinyl 41 wrote: more important is that new black raven from the 3 teaser screens posted yesterday on fanfest Was that what it was? I couldn't tellGÇª Waiting for the Valkyrie presentation to endGÇª EVE keynote starts now! We should have details on the new ships within the next 2 hoursGÇª http://fanfest.eveonline.com/en/stream/free i dnt think it was a black raven...there was a black venture (the prospect) and some blue-ish plating.... EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1435	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:41:00 - [19] - Quote so there were black... still, my three guesses were right :3 EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1435	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:56:00 - [20] - Quote i dnt know if i liked the look of the BS. the new phoon on the other hand, shexy. edit- also looked like 8 missiles hard points...though its just artwork atm. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"

Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1435	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:10:00 - [21] - Quote ill still be flying the rattler. it still has tank and my 5 small drones will still do more damage to frigs because of my DDA's. so i still expect it to be a stronger mission ship than a kitey mordus ship with scram range. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1435	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:20:00 - [22] - Quote well except for when he re-looked at the rapid lights, and then made a slight change. Now rapid lights are more popular now than they were before they were made burst style weapons. edit, and when the battleships went through tiericide he took player feedback and made alterations as well. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1442	Posted - 2014.05.05 11:34:00 - [23] - Quote what does the super drone bonus do to drone shield recharge?? EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1444	Posted - 2014.05.05 11:49:00 - [24] - Quote King Fu Hostile wrote: Daichi Yamato wrote: what does the super drone bonus do to drone shield recharge?? Recharge amount per second increases as total HP increases but recharge time stays the same. i thought so, but since the drone shield recharge was recently balanced, this seems to make heavyes pretty tanky again lol. Omnathious Deninard wrote: Daichi Yamato wrote: what does the super drone bonus do to drone shield recharge?? Using Navy Wasps, starting shield regen is about 4/s, after skills it is 5/s, this brings it up to 18.7/s yeah this EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1444	Posted - 2014.05.05 12:29:00 - [25] - Quote epicurus are u mistaking role bonus for unique ability? cause the way these drones tank is pretty unique. a super drones shields is near equivalent to an entire heavy drones hp. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1444	Posted - 2014.05.05 12:46:00 - [26] - Quote Caleb Seremshur wrote: Daichi Yamato wrote: epicurus are u mistaking role bonus for unique ability? cause the way these drones tank is pretty unique. a super drones shields is near equivalent to an entire heavy drones hp. Well one thing it does mean is that webbing/scramming one of your 'super drones' means nullifying an entire flights worth of dps. Certainly something powerful to do if you find it necessary to speed tank incoming heavies by just scramming one and then burning away from it. yep, this is also fairly unique to the superdrone. \o/ EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1444	Posted - 2014.05.05 12:52:00 - [27] - Quote epicurus ataraxia wrote: Daichi Yamato wrote: epicurus are u mistaking role bonus for unique ability? cause the way these drones tank is pretty unique. a super drones shields is near equivalent to an entire heavy drones hp. No I am not. then the rattler most certainly has a role bonus. its below where it says 'Role Bonus' in bold lettering. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1444	Posted - 2014.05.05 13:22:00 - [28] - Quote so u want the missile damage bonus to be the role bonus? EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1444	Posted - 2014.05.05 13:36:00 - [29] - Quote epicurus ataraxia wrote: Daichi Yamato wrote: so u want the missile damage bonus to be the role bonus? One gallente bonus One caldari bonus And one role bonus that means something. Not just somewhere for CCP rise to dump his " fix" well lets hear it. cause right now, having missile damage per level is preferable to drone damage per level. means that if u dnt have everything to 5 u arent as crippled for dps. its more gradual progress. and a plain damage bonus is more versatile than a missile velocity bonus. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1446	Posted - 2014.05.05 14:37:00 - [30] - Quote Kane Fenris wrote: i suport that the rattle needs that speed and tracking bonus to heavy drones else itl be worse than before the change in some really relevant cenarios. so +1 to tracking and speed bonus i hope you at ccp listen this time .... i really dnt think it needs a tracking bonus. theres already domi's and ishtars. hope ccp listens to me rather than u. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"

Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1446	Posted - 2014.05.05 14:58:00 - [31] - Quote Priestess Lin wrote: Not just light drones, all drones. AND the more versatile 400m3 drone bay, AND missile velocity AND resistance to e-war. All gone with these horrible changes. Nobody trains for a rattlesnake because they want specialized, high-dps. Get a clue and get a life. thats exactly why i trained into it. tough tank, powerful dps over various ranges and against all ship types. its still just as resistant to e-war i certainly didnt train it so i could field 5 ecm drones. Kane Fenris wrote: without an speed and tracking bonus it will not be able to deal with any small ship threats.... i really dont see where it would hurt to have the ship beeing able to defend it self against small ships before patch you could call your small /med droens if needed and this option now will be gone and that HURTS the hull a lot i wouldnt worry. in missions, heavies, sentries and unbonused lights pop frigs with ease. or in PvP unbonused lights are still painful for frigs and ur newly buffed rapid lights and heavies also hurt frigs a lot. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1447	Posted - 2014.05.05 15:26:00 - [32] - Quote Israeli Shitbag wrote: Why would anyone fly a Rattlesnake when there are better missile ship where you don't have to worry about screwing around with drones to get your full DPS? because my rattler does more dps than the golem. because my rattler can instant pop frigs at various ranges. im happy to screw around with drones with all the benefits they get. the only thing that was really true in ur post was that the golem has more tank. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1447	Posted - 2014.05.05 15:45:00 - [33] - Quote Israeli Shitbag wrote: Daichi Yamato wrote: [quote=Israeli Shitbag] the only thing that was really true in ur post was that the golem has more tank. You must be some kind of special person. lol who liked that? really. my mum says im very special. and fact says im right. u gonna prove me wrong? lay it all out then. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1447	Posted - 2014.05.05 15:47:00 - [34] - Quote Kane Fenris wrote: Daichi Yamato wrote: Kane Fenris wrote: without an speed and tracking bonus it will not be able to deal with any small ship threats.... i really dont see where it would hurt to have the ship beeing able to defend it self against small ships before patch you could call your small /med droens if needed and this option now will be gone and that HURTS the hull a lot i wouldnt worry. in missions, heavies, sentries and unbonused lights pop frigs with ease. or in PvP unbonused lights are still painful for frigs and ur newly buffed rapid lights and heavies also hurt frigs a lot. thats all a point of view on a normal bs i wouldnt contradict you but for its price tag its should have the ability else it will be again one of the worst faction ships meh, i use it now, ill use it when its even better after summer. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1448	Posted - 2014.05.05 16:57:00 - [35] - Quote Priestess Lin wrote: Daichi Yamato wrote: Israeli Shitbag wrote: Daichi Yamato wrote: [quote=Israeli Shitbag] the only thing that was really true in ur post was that the golem has more tank. You must be some kind of special person. lol who liked that? really. my mum says im very special. and fact says im right. u gonna prove me wrong? lay it all out then. I got this. "However, there is no Marauder with a large drone bay." True. Also, ever heard of rage torps? You fail. lol nice try at a ninja edit like i was going to say to fenris, the cheap price tag of the rattler was another reason i chose it. my cruise rattler in summer will out dps a (edit-T2 fit) rage torp golem in summer. it will handle targets of all sizes and it will reach further. All without faction equipment or t2 ammo. the only thing it wont do is tank like a golem. but seeing as it still tanks all level 4's i can live with that. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1448	Posted - 2014.05.05 17:41:00 - [36] - Quote yeah over 1300dps on the rattler, T1 ammo, T2 drones, no faction mods. the only thing it loses is 20km drone control range. but it still reaches further than a torp golem and it still applies damage to various sizes of targets better than the golem. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1448	Posted - 2014.05.05 18:11:00 - [37] - Quote yeah its losing 20 from 100km. please show me the fit where a golem can reach 80km with torps. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1448	Posted - 2014.05.05 18:14:00 - [38] - Quote edited EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1448	Posted - 2014.05.05 18:38:00 - [39] - Quote Priestess Lin wrote: changing quote because it will probably be deleted. its primary dps is still drones. ~800 is still more than ~500. im not denying the superdrone is an all or nothing concept. it will have its ups and downs in PvP i guess. but in missions at least, rats are stupid and easy to manage, and i expect the superdrones will perform well there. i said MY FIT lost 20km drone control range. like wise, my mission rattler doesnt have anything to worry about e-war wise that isnt already an issue. and 400m3 drone bay or 175m3 superdrone bay means little to my mission rattler. so where was i wrong? EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1448	Posted - 2014.05.05 18:49:00 - [40] - Quote Last Wolf wrote: Daichi Yamato wrote: Priestess Lin wrote: changing quote because it will probably be deleted. its primary dps is still drones. ~800 is still more than ~500. The snake has 93.75% of the dps of a golem without including drone dps. It really just depends on what lows you want to fit. yeah i went straight off of my fit. but without any damage mods fit, the drones still do more dps than the missiles. and ppl said the rattler had no versatility. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"

Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1448	Posted - 2014.05.05 19:25:00 - [41] - Quote KaDa en Bauldry wrote: baltec1 wrote: Priestess Lin wrote: Daichi Yamato wrote: edited lol what did i get wrong? its losing its resistance to e-war What resistance to E-war? The one when your sentry drones kept shooting at an orbiting frig at 2.5km after it successfully jammed you. Or Heavies moving out to a Battleship orbiting at 50km. Total flawless immunity. so what resistance to e-war has it lost? EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1448	Posted - 2014.05.05 20:20:00 - [42] - Quote indeed, geckos are horribly deadly. with the split damage types tho, i dnt know if using them in missions will be worth it. please dnt gank me when i use them kaarous. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1449	Posted - 2014.05.05 21:10:00 - [43] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Oh, and Mournful? The Gecko is faster, hits harder, tracks better, and has more hitpoints than 2 ogres. With Rattlesnake bonuses it will be insane. Price is the only constricting factor in it's use. i was going to say this. its two ogres combined and then put on steroids. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1451	Posted - 2014.05.06 00:40:00 - [44] - Quote thought it was confirmed as a birthday gift. edit - really? 5000 alpha? i remember back in the day when i used a Mael that rat BC's had ~4500 hp. i doubt it will one shot a BC because of resists, but this might be a bit OP lol. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1451	Posted - 2014.05.06 01:27:00 - [45] - Quote pretty nice. i wonder, will geckos be getting the speed improvement that heavies are getting in summer? if not, will normal heavies be faster than geckos? EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1453	Posted - 2014.05.06 12:35:00 - [46] - Quote Mournful Conciousness wrote: A sad end for a supposedly fearsome pirate ship. Pirate ships aren't better than navy faction in every possible way. A vindicator or mach doesnt tank like a navy mega or fleet tempest. a nightmare doesnt have a navpocs range or a navy geddons dps. the mordus BS probably wont apply damage like a CNR and certainly wont tank like a scorp navy issue. I wouldnt expect a rattler to get more dps than a brawler navy domi, but it most certainly has more tank and utility. Meaningful choices and all that. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1453	Posted - 2014.05.06 13:04:00 - [47] - Quote epicurus ataraxia wrote: Thank you for your patience, in extracting the relevant information and doing the research. I do hope that it may encourage some to re-examine their preconceptions, but personally i found, that after writing thousands of words to find that two or three from each post are then used as ammunition, totally out of context, and the entire effort being disregarded and unread, as somewhat disheartening. I wish you more success do u just latch onto any excuse? first it small drones then its missile velocity then its micro management now its raw paper dps? no, im quite happy that the raw paper dps of a rattler doesnt match the no'1 BS in glass cannon brawling. but the fact that it can get so close, whilst tanking more and even have slots to spare is a credit to the rattler. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1454	Posted - 2014.05.06 13:14:00 - [48] - Quote Priestess Lin wrote: That is because you are just an awful and extremely ignornant player, really. You are happy that the DPS of a pirate faction battleship doesn't surpass a Navy faction battleship that is also more versatile? confirming, nightmares do more dps than navy geddons...ohhh wait. wheres the versatility in that domi fit? where as the rattler has spare mids and utility high to play with. the versatility is all with the rattler. epicurus ataraxia wrote: Many are NOT. Many more ppl ARE EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1454	Posted - 2014.05.06 13:38:00 - [49] - Quote epicurus ataraxia wrote: What I care about is that me and two other guys are very unimpressed with the effort expended on the rebalance of this ship. CCP id like u to consider something different! Edit, I do regret that we all have behaved so appallingly through out this thread. FTFY EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1454	Posted - 2014.05.06 14:19:00 - [50] - Quote is it on the test server? EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"

Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1459	Posted - 2014.05.08 09:54:00 - [51] - Quote ha ha, yeah i thought it was a bit OP ah well, use em while we can. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1463	Posted - 2014.05.08 15:38:00 - [52] - Quote Morukk Nuamzzar wrote: baltec1 wrote: I have flown mega with less EHP, lets just put it that way Does that mean Rattlesnake with Gecko drones will be OP in close combat? well lets say shooting the drone (cause it will only have one) might not be the best way to counter it. if/when it comes on SiSi we may have a better idea. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1463	Posted - 2014.05.08 16:42:00 - [53] - Quote am i the only one who bothers to manage drone aggro and, failing that, repair at station? lol EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1470	Posted - 2014.05.09 17:18:00 - [54] - Quote i concur. superdrones seem to work well in PvE and the missile damage bonus will be more versatile across more ranges than a velocity bonus. edit - and the lack of bonused light drones does ** all to missions. i use heavies more than lights to kill frigs and spider drones and i havent used mediums in a mission since i realised they also do ** all that heavies cant do better. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1496	Posted - 2014.05.15 18:22:00 - [55] - Quote Just tried the rattler on SiSi. Its definitely faster in missions now. I didn't notice any unusual drone aggro and my heavies still alpha mission frigs. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1496	Posted - 2014.05.15 21:59:00 - [56] - Quote so all this was about salvage drones, medium drones and torps?? u could have just said. first thing u need to do is stop using mediums. Heavies kill rats better than mediums all the time. Always. now u have space for ur salvage drones. and the torp range is a legitimate gripe. must be kinda slow flying round the mission getting everything within range though, or worse, waiting for them to come to u. u'd probably do better with cruises or RHML's anyway. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1498	Posted - 2014.05.15 22:31:00 - [57] - Quote epicurus ataraxia wrote: The geckos are what heavy drones should be, If the ship had a means of replacing geckos, then a lot of people would feel a hell of a lot more comfortable. They might be a bit too good for that. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1498	Posted - 2014.05.15 22:38:00 - [58] - Quote Lol u can use one at a time, and u wont be losing them. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1587	Posted - 2014.05.27 01:10:00 - [59] - Quote lol this is still going on? Sgt Ocker wrote: Do you like seeing your name in the thread so much, you are happy to put in the time to try and say everyone but you is wrong? I've not seen 1 post from you that actually added content to the thread, just so much drivel about how everyone else is wrong and you are right. Let me give you a little advice, from someone who has been around for over half a century. Don't try to make clever comments if you 1, Don't have all the information 2, Are unable to see another's point of view 3, (the most important) Don't try to make clever comments, if you are not clever. If hes guilty of all the above then so are u. uve both posted plenty in this thread. uve both pushed for a change to the rattler. u both think ur right and others are wrong (omg opinions). and u should head ur own advice as much as him. There are at least as many ppl happy with the rattler as arent. those ppl asking for the light drone bonus back do not represent the eve community anymore than those that are content to lose it. If u do a quick count of the first 20 pages of fors and against u see there isnt a significant majority either way. But the market seems to love where they are going. epicurus ataraxia wrote: Enjoy the new kronos kaarous, (ex rattlesnake) no one else will. probably the worst person for thinking everyone shares his view. has been endlessly condescending and obnoxious throughout the thread, denigrated devs and quite clearly thinks the sun shines out his arse. ignore and move on. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1589	Posted - 2014.05.28 14:48:00 - [60] - Quote Nerf Burger wrote: Sniper Smith wrote: M Key wrote: R3als Rakkari wrote: The other thing is that only 1 drone link augmentator is not enough to use sentrys on max targeting range so please add one more high slot and a bit CPU. I am happy on any comments :-) Fly save Try flying it with only one link. So far in my testing its not needed more in PvE. You have both tank and gank so just murder them as they enter your bubble of death. With even a little bit of bling you can tank entire rooms of the hardest missions for a good while. The entire room can't say the same for your 1600dps arriving back at them. Also welcome to compromise.. you want max DPS you forfeit some of your range.. want max range you lose a launcher.. Most ships have to make tradeoffs, so no complaining about it here.. I don't see why the Rattlesnake needed anything taken away from it. Its not like it was considered OP or too strong. Why should a ship that is considered to be UP have to make any tradeoff? That is silly notion that every ship must give up something to gain something. It actually looks worse off than it was before, losing so many things to gain a specialized damage bonus for missiles. because power creep and its no worse than before. run it on SISI. its a beast EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"

Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1589	Posted - 2014.05.28 15:48:00 - [61] - Quote If after 3rd of June we see a thread asking for bonused lights and mediums back on the rattler that garners a lot of support then they may change it back. Try starting one a little after everyone has time to test it, maybe a week or two, and see how many support it. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1590	Posted - 2014.05.28 16:05:00 - [62] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Daichi Yamato wrote: If after 3rd of June we see a thread asking for bonused lights and mediums back on the rattler that garners a lot of support then they may change it back. Try starting one a little after everyone has time to test it, maybe a week or two, and see how many support it. I'll honestly be surprised if the current Rattler makes it a year without getting nerfed. It's pretty nuts right now, even for a Pirate Battleship, which has pretty well set the bar for being nuts. yeah i wouldnt be surprised if it gets nerfed a bit too. its dps with sentries is already being nerfed in Kronos. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1592	Posted - 2014.05.29 00:27:00 - [63] - Quote ISD Ezwal wrote: I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay. Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil! The Rules: Glad i read that. pretty sure ive done or at least come close to .13 EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1593	Posted - 2014.05.29 01:08:00 - [64] - Quote Fabulous Rod wrote: Do try to post constructively. This isn't a chat room. As I was saying, the Rattlesnakes damage bonus isn't even specialized against the ships its passive shield tanking ability is specialized to deal with, neut/nos users. That was actually something i was relieved to see. now i only need to buy/make two types of cruise missiles rather than four. caldari pilots always complain they are pigeon holed into one damage type...the lucky beggers EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1593	Posted - 2014.05.29 03:19:00 - [65] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: If you passive tank, you're doing it wrong. i passive tank. When i rigged my rattler im sure T2 purgers werent so expensive though. Using some form of gist booster is looking more attractive now. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1801	Posted - 2014.07.14 13:58:00 - [66] - Quote stoicfaux wrote: Speaking of the Rattlesnake, I do not recommending using Heavies against NPC frigates. Something(tm) happened when CCP tweaked their tracking. For example: warriors, ~12 seconds to kill an Angel Webifier 13:51:24Combat1300 to Devilfish Alvi - Gecko - Penetrates 13:51:19Combat850 to Strain Splinter Alvi - Gecko - Glances Off 13:51:14Combat1300 to Devilfish Alvi - Gecko - Hits 13:51:09Combat1175 to Silverfish Alvi - Gecko - Penetrates 13:51:04Combat1175 to Silverfish Alvi - Gecko - Glances Off 13:50:59Combat850 to Strain Splinter Alvi - Gecko - Penetrates 13:50:54Combat975 to Strain Render Alvi - Gecko - Hits But my gecko one shots 7 of the smallest rats with no misses. epicurus ataraxia wrote: Heavy drones are NOT capable against Frigates, You argued until you were blue in the face how wonderful they were, they are proven to be useless. The issue needs fixing. Proven where? ive seen something that suggests they are slightly less effective than lights against frigs. i can live with that. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1801	Posted - 2014.07.14 15:21:00 - [67] - Quote Anyone ever told u that ur a bit of a drama queen? EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1803	Posted - 2014.07.14 18:24:00 - [68] - Quote Hakaari Inkuran wrote: edit: I've checked the HP of a rattle's ogre and its about 1/3 of a gecko. Yeesh. Is the gecko just flat out superior in everything except raw DPS? pretty much. However, the drawback of the Gecko is that a lot of its rainbow damage is resisted by elite rats. So use correct damage types against Arch Gist's, Guardian Serp's and the likes Normal heavies do fine, they are NOT useless and still hit frigs. Its just the all or nothing nature of having fewer more powerful drones make them less consistent. Sometimes u'll insta pop frigs, sometimes there will be a few misses, sometimes there will be a lot of misses. The rattlers drone bay still allows u to carry: 2x Heavies 2x Sentries 1x Gecko 5x Small so if push comes to shove, having 5 smalls that do 66.67% of the damage they used to leaves the performance of the rattler against small targets unchanged in any significant way. U are not threatened by frigs in missions and u are not slowed down by frigates in ur missions such that ur rewards/hour are hurt. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 1807	Posted - 2014.07.14 20:48:00 - [69] - Quote epicurus ataraxia wrote: Well when a missile implant that adds 5% to damage costs eve's. equivalent value of a kidney losing 33.333% damage and 33.333% of your hitpoints is more than insignificant, it is more like losing a leg. That is another gross exaggeration. Its not even like losing a pinky. it turns killing a frig in 8 seconds into killing a frig in 12 seconds. if u have 7 frigs to kill at the end of a room (which is a lot) then it takes 28 seconds longer to clear. Like i said, it hardly slows u down at all. stoic's post shows heavies killing frigs faster than lights as well btw, as does mine. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"

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